[Discussion] rental space options

Sun Jun 20 01:42:31 UTC 2010

A place like this in kingsland would be pretty decent in terms of space,
locality, under $20k, has parking, 1 min from trains, buses - not the best
$138/m2 but it's not penrose. Location, location location... :0)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-me-property/Commercial-property/Commercial-property-for-lease/auction-278704902.htm

On 20 June 2010 13:13, i b <irabailey at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone, i missed the last two meetings but I'll be at the next one.
> I'll intro my self soon..
>
> Bond is usually 2 months, 1 month in advance and leases for small
> industrial spaces are usually 2x2 years (but not that hard to get out of if
> you give notice). So on $20K that's a $5k lump sum and on $30k, it's $7.5k.
> Not exactly trivial amounts... I'd suggest nothing over $20K unless you have
> 50+ people who have already paid a $100 deposit to join the society -
> otherwise someone's going to have to stump up the cash personally. But
> ideally we'd get a space that's free or for peppercorn rental..
>
> I had a small space of about 50m2 (10mx5m) and it was decent enough size
> for quite a few people to work in. If you have a membership of 50ppl then
> I'd assume that, at most, only a third would ever be there together in the
> space (in a working capacity). So the space should only need to fit about 15
> if you expect ..
>
> Good natural light, a view and rooftop access for laser/wireless/satelitte
> would also be preferable.
>
> cheers,
> Ira.
>
>
>
> On 20 June 2010 11:26, Calvin <spielburg at woosh.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Thomas Matysik wrote:
>>
>>> Number of people
>>> Annual Price *15** **20** **30** **40** **50*
>>> 10,000 12.82 9.62 6.41 4.81 3.85
>>> 12,000 15.38 11.54 7.69 5.77 4.62
>>> 15,000 19.23 14.42 9.62 7.21 5.77
>>> 20,000 25.64 19.23 12.82 9.62 7.69
>>> 25,000 32.05 24.04 16.03 12.02 9.62
>>> 30,000 38.46 28.85 19.23 14.42 11.54
>>> 35,000 44.87 33.65 22.44 16.83 13.46
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Calvin <spielburg at woosh.co.nz <mailto:
>>> spielburg at woosh.co.nz>> wrote:
>>> > Nevyn wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Not to put too fine a point on it, but we do need to a basis for
>>> >> comparison. So let's take the cost per m2 per annum (excluding gst):
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Claire Dann <clairedann at gmail.com<mailto:
>>> clairedann at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>  >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://spacerealty.co.nz/spacerealty/property-details.cfm?obj_uuid=CE4BC4E5-1E4F-17FA-D2D9-8F040E2EC151
>>> >>> $36,000pa +GST Mt Roskill 233m2
>>> >>>    >>
>>> >> Price / Annum / m2: $154.50
>>> >>
>>> >>  >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://spacerealty.co.nz/spacerealty/property-details.cfm?obj_uuid=F2DB7791-1E4F-17FA-D2F1-F37222742755
>>> >>> $36,000pa +GST Mt Eden 177m2
>>> >>>    >>
>>> >> Price / Annum / m2: $203.39
>>> >>
>>> >>  >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://commercialproperty.nzherald.co.nz/property/commercial/for-lease/industrial/60rdmf/#
>>> >>> $27,000pa Onehunga 390m2
>>> >>>    >>
>>> >> Price / Annum / m2: $69.23
>>> >>
>>> >>  >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://commercialproperty.nzherald.co.nz/property/commercial/for-lease/industrial/5tm3f7/#
>>> >>> $37,000 Onehunga 470m2
>>> >>>    >>
>>> >> Price / Annum / m2: $78.72
>>> >>
>>> >>  >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://commercialproperty.nzherald.co.nz/property/commercial/for-lease/industrial/5tm3f7/#
>>> >>> POA City 233m2
>>> >>>    >>
>>> >> Comparison not possible till price known.
>>> >>
>>> >>  >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://commercialproperty.nzherald.co.nz/property/commercial/for-lease/industrial/5jmqxq/
>>> >>> POA Eden Terrace 280m2
>>> >>>    >>
>>> >> Comparison not possible till price known.
>>> >>
>>> >> We can be a bit more discerning - i.e. look for the deals.... For
>>> example:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-me-property/Commercial-property/Commercial-property-for-lease/auction-292311749.htm
>>> >> 430m2, $28,000/annum  ($2333/month), Carr Road, Mt Roskill. Only has 4
>>> >> car parks though there is on street parking on Carr Road.
>>> >> So that's.... $65 / annum / m2.
>>> >>
>>> >> Of course, this is taking only a monetary view at it. We also need to
>>> >> fuflill such things as access (to some extent), suitability etc. On
>>> >> that basis though, I'd suggest that those first two at least should be
>>> >> considered silly prices to pay for the space we're wanting.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have looked at this previously and the suburb really doesn't /
>>> >> shouldn't make too much of a difference in terms of price - it's a
>>> >> case of looking out for the deals and at the moment, they're all over
>>> >> the place (i.e. I found that example on Carr Road in about 2 minutes).
>>> >>
>>> >> We're going to have to also be able visualise the space. 100m2 sounds
>>> >> like a lot until you start looking at the fact that it's only 10m x
>>> >> 10m.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Nevyn.
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>>> >>  >
>>> > Hi I also had a thought, I just worked out the weekly cost  for the
>>> onehunga
>>> > property $39,000 pa. on my calculator
>>> >
>>> > for a group of fifty people. = $15.00 ea.  although obviously the
>>> numbers
>>> > will vary over time.
>>> >
>>> > So perhaps we could create a table of various prives and group numbers,
>>>  > or someone more skillful than me make a mini app that will  show options
>>> >  for various numbers of folks v.s. various prices.
>>> >
>>> > sort of     $X price / 52 / X people =  $Y weekly  price per person.  >
>>> e.g.
>>> >
>>> > $39,000 pa. divided by 52 weeks = $750.00 / week  > so: $750.00 per
>>> week divided by 50 people = $15.00 pp.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > cheers Cal.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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